In this episode of The Joyous Justice Podcast, host April Baskin talks about our relationship with thriving, why so many of us have a bad relationship, and how we can start healing it.
Our relationship with the concept of thriving begins when we are very young and money is one of the core areas where we have the most negative programming. As adults, we must evaluate our beliefs associated with thriving, question them, and do the inner work. Healing your relationship with thriving is the foundation of positioning yourself and our movements for long-term sustainability and success.
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You're listening to the joyous justiceApril Baskin:
podcast, a weekly show hosted by April Baskin with Tracie Guy-Decker.Unknown:
in a complex world in which systemic oppression conditions us to deny others and our own humanity. let's dedicate ourselves to the pursuit and embodiment of wholeness, love and thriving in the world and in our own lives. It's time to heal and flourish our way to a more joyous and just future.April Baskin:
Hello, hello, welcome back for another episode. And boy, do I have an episode for you. As you may know, Tracie Guy-Decker, my beloved buddy, and partner in this work is on break right now. So it is just me. And that is both a little bittersweet. More than a little bittersweet. And also, this is a really meaningful opportunity for us to cultivate our relationship further, you and I. And also for me to step into different parts of my leadership that when I first formed this gorgeous and amazing partnership with Tracy, I didn't feel fully ready to step into. And I feel more ready to do that now. So Tracy and I are both in a process of growth and evolution. And that is very exciting. SoUnknown:
let's dive in. I've got some really juicy stuff that I want to speak with you about today, regarding thriving. So here's some of my thoughts about thriving overall, my sense is that some folks have a lovely relationship with it. And a lot of folks are jaded and or have a complicated relationship with thriving. And so in this episode, in this year episode today, let me clarify that. In this your episode today, what I want to say and dive into it is that is high is that it's high time to heal your relationship with thriving, so what I want to dive into today is that it is high time for you to heal, if this is true for you, and or for those for whom it is relevant for you to heal your relationship with thriving, and start setting yourself up and our movements up for long term success and sustainability. So yeah, so there's a few different points I want to cover here. And the first is that people often I've noticed recently, I've been really into this concept of thriving and weaving it into my life. And it's complicated for a lot of people for a lot of different reasons. One is that a lot of people have been conditioned and have accepted the thought that they need to regularly compromise in many different areas of their life in ways that actually really aren't acceptable, but they just have to tolerate it and move on. And a number of you, and perhaps you as well have gotten pretty good at making the best of sort of crappy conditions in certain ways. And for me, again, part of the huge overarching theme here at joyous justice is that we can thrive and advance justice. And that actually, our joy and well being is a part of justice. And I think what gets complicated for people is that there's been either a lot of oppression that they've experienced and or a lot of oppressive dominant culture dynamics that lifted folks up and conditioned them and positioned them to learn and function and operate in such a way that when you are not conscious, you're thriving inherently is at the expense of others and at Joy's justice among a range of different things. Part of what I am interested in advancing with y'all is holistic analysis is holistic understanding an integrated decolonize liberatory.April Baskin:
conceptualization and then filtering through your being an actualization of what it looks like to operationalised liberatory living and leadership. And in my model, I don't know about showbuzz But in my role model and practice and in theory, I want my liberatory living and leadership model to have thriving at its core Are both individual and collective thriving, right? So thriving is important. So in this podcast episode today, I want to invite you to investigate and begin thinking about what is your relationship with thriving. And what I want to say is to get a little intimate, and maybe this particular word isn't right for you, you can replace this word with something else.Unknown:
But darling, honey, beloved, you deserve to thrive. And you're thriving is essential to collective liberation, it is part of it. And the more you postpone figuring out how to thrive in ways that feel both true to you, and are also ethical and in alignment with your values, the longer you are stalling, becoming the empowered and body integrated, amazing legendary leader and human and lover, who you are meant to be. And despite what supremacy and dominance, culture would tell, each of us tells each of us does tell each of us consistently, the distance between that embodied integrative grid integrated, thriving self is not as vast as you've been conditioned to believe it is, as we've been conditioned to believe it is. Now, that doesn't mean that the journey might not involve a lot of courage, and emotion and moving and shift in different ways. And engaging on a nonlinear path, which is part of one of the many things that makes my redefining resilience and my grounded and growing framework so helpful is that it provides structure and support and scaffolding to what can otherwise be a super nonlinear messy progress, process and progress and actually help build in rhythm and sacred pacing and analysis that helps you understand at any given point, where you are in the process of something, what are the next steps what you can revisit if you're not feeling quite how you want. So take a breath here. Oh, so much feeling? Do you feel it? I care about this so much. So I think a lot of people are jaded. And understandably so I have no judgment about the state of jadedness and or just kind of having given up on the concept of thriving, but I want to invite you to reclaim it, or if you already have reclaimed it. Kudos to you if you have reclaimed it, and you're living it and or if you have, you're in the process of reclaiming it, and you're moving through that, yes, more of this, please. The more we holistically, socially consciously thrive, the better. And I don't think purity politics or purity culture. Like don't let that get in the way of you thriving. I've been rather intently.April Baskin:
Analyzing this and thinking this a lot. And to make a simple statement, I am very clear that to get to joyous justice in different ways that joy needs justice, and also desires justice, if we are actually in deep holistic joy we inherently want to give to support and others. And as we are advancing justice in different ways we need that social justice and that activism and that courageous upstander leadership to be imbued with joy and or spirit. Joy is just one word with habit joy, or ease, breath, spirituality, Spirit, they need each other inherently to me, they go together.Unknown:
And so in my programs or in other spaces you are in, I want to invite you, but especially my program, because it's designed with this in mind. And also I don't think that I'm necessarily alone in that. That the nice thing about the way and I wasn't planning on talking about this, but it's just intuitively coming up. As I'm recording this. The nice thing about how I've designed our the core curriculum and grounded and growing is that when as you move through it, you allow yourself initially to still think like actively be thinking about others in your relationship to them, but also anchor and knowing and working on cultivating better knowing through very concrete processes and practices yourself and caring for your self. So that as you move into the final process of the ground integrating process, more specifically the Shamal process, and as you start to build up your capacity to navigate these things, then you can layer in greater and greater sociological analysis. But here's the thing that a number of phenomenal leaders teach. One of my favorite is Professor Emeritus, Barbara J love. And when she talks about her four stages of liberatory consciousness, which you might have heard me discussed before, this might be new for you, so I will cover them, they are and sometimes the order is switched between the last two. But here's the order that I like of it is awareness, which is where a lot of folks are around different things. Like they have some semblance of like an understanding of these things, then there's analysis. And basically how I like to describe analysis is when on a given issue, whether it's racial justice, or collective liberation, in general, or socio economic oppression, or dominance or fat phobia, or any form of oppression or dynamic you go there's, there's four levels, that ideally you achieve with it is awareness, which is the basic level understanding. And then there is analysis, which is where it filters through the story of your living and your specific life and also other circumstances around you where you take that understanding, and you start to integrate it and filter it through, so that it's not just on the surface thing, but it starts to become part of who you are in a way that works for you. And it might have you shift some of your understandings or stories, and or may enhance them in different ways. But that is the process of integration. And that is what analysis is about. But then we don't stop there, then we start to move into accountability, and the synonym that I like to use for accountability, because accountability in the context of systemic oppression, and carceral culture is often viewed in a very punitive, threatening way. So how I like to reframe accountability, that is both in service of bringing more ease to everyone, and feels good to me as someone who has often wanted and or desperately needed accountability from others, and at times got it and in a number of instances did not is commitment is commitment. So now that you have a basic surface level knowledge, but and you've gone further, and it started to percolate and get into the roots of your understanding and starting to filter through the roots of your being and your concepts and showing up and how things are flowering in your life and the kinds of relationships you're you're having and this types of pollen you're putting out into the world, and what are you drawing to us starting to shift some of that, right? Is commitment to how we are showing up in different ways around our impact, strengthening that in different ways, being thoughtful about that thing. And, and then the fourth piece, and these two can alternate back and forth a bit or a little bit moveable is action is taking action, in service and in alignment with in service of and in alignment with your awareness, analysis, and commitment, or accountability. Right. And all of those thingsApril Baskin:
are meaningful and take time. And I think a lot of people struggle with this. Because one, it takes time and people don't make the progress they make and because of purity culture and dominant culture that demands perfection,Unknown:
people get stuck. And to go back to the main theme of this episode, right. And so these are just a few of the different barriers that get in the way of people thriving. And what I want to assert, if you didn't notice, is that thriving gets to be woven throughout and gets to boost us and that we are feel so intense about it. We areApril Baskin:
profoundly and fundamentally and on conditionally deserving of care and love and thriving wherever we are on that liberatory consciousness journey.Unknown:
My problem in this work is not that people aren't perfect is that people get disempowered and aren't resourced well and stop. And then the oppression continues if mistakes are made in the context of evolution, and I see someone actively engaging or fighting for their well being as long As it's not in a way that super oppressive or super either or that is fine. That is okay. Particularly if you're in a context like here at joyous justice where it is understood that that is an essential part of moving toward greater courage is by strengthening your own foundation. And what better way to strengthen your own foundation and figuring out what helps me or makes me feel good. When do I feel at home? When do I feel safe? What are small and big things that elicit joy and pleasure and ease and inspiration from me. Because when we have some of that flowing, moving through the stages of liberatory, consciousness becomes easier. It becomes more empowering certainly. And it also can become more enjoyable. As we're caring for ourselves, and practicing compassion, and also weaving in rigor. You have capacity, immense capacity, to take on and embody and champion, profound rigor. Especially, and at times, perhaps only if you also match that rigor with trauma informed analysis, also known as compassion might also be known as compassion, maybe that's a better way of saying that right? With compassion, trauma, informed analysis, fun, play, these are all things. And these aren't just things for you. And for others, these are things that are a part of what our final destination of what collective thriving, of what liberation, collective liberation, and decolonization looks like, is living simply to live is enjoying the mundane, is savoring beauty is honoring the brilliance of our minds, and beginning to understand in the places where we're weird, or quote, unquote insufficient is simply usually a place where we've been under resourced, and or learned coping mechanisms that were brilliant, and brave in our lives and intergenerationally in the context of oppression. And in day to day, life isn't so helpful right now. But that's not that's something to be ashamed of. That's something to honor and celebrate, that we effin made it. And now we get to resource and nourish ourselves. And figure out what we want to carry in our day to day satchel, and what we want to put on the shelf, and perhaps what we want to discard, and there might be some things that we discard, or we say we want to keep the kernel of wisdom and insight here, but in light of different things. We've learned this survival mechanism, I cherish it, I bless it, I think it was can we really kinda right now it's funny. It has enabled survival and joy in our family, just generations. And now when what might be an example, is feeding children. And that was really useful in the context of enslavement or in rough circumstances, or in the context of pogroms where our bodies were being beaten, to help build in that grit in particular ways. In light of the understanding at the time, I can appreciate that that had a purpose. And I want to keep the kernel of the parental and familial desire to keep our children safe, and to cultivate grit and resilience in them. But actually, I want to lovingly compost Berry, and let that decompose and filter back through soil that we can use to plant other parts of our family or my individual garden, whatever the case may be. And I'm going to keep this seed and perhaps put that on the sash. Put that on the shelf, or perhaps put that on the satchel, but in that case, I want to release those harmful patterns, right? And then other times there might be things like urgency, that in day to day life and a lot of different ways is not in service of our physiological well being our communal dynamics. or interpersonal relationships. But in light of the ways that certain impressions or danger can spike suddenly, at times, I want to both disentangle that from my day to day living. But I also don't want to discard it or bury it or deep or compost it. Well, that that decompose, I want to put that on the shelf. Right, because we haven't actually achieved collective liberation yet, or anywhere close to that, and sometimes I feel unsafe. So I don't want to be using that. And I want to do work through a program. So they're grounded and growing to release some of that urgency and that perfectionism in ways that are practical and work. But also keep urgency on the shelf. Because in different moments in my life now and or in the future, we might need that. So that is an ancestrally proven best practice that has stood the test of time and is still something that I don't know about you, but I want to keep that. But I don't necessarily want that to be a go to, in my day to day satchel or purse that I carry around. Because that affects my adrenals and my blood pressure and the presence or lack thereof of inflammation in my body. And also can be damaging in the context of particularly relationships across lines of difference and positional power. So that's work that we can engage in. And what supports us in that work is profound love of self. And if that is something that's not accessible to you yet, then beginning to weave in elements of thriving and well being into your life that is in alignment with a potential love of self is a good first step. And we don't need to have another barrier that comes up here around this concept of thriving, that is a variation of the purity culture dynamic is all or nothing thinking. Thriving, just like anything else is a dynamic process. And you can have a little thriving or a lot of thriving and somewhere in between. And we can start out with incremental measures, which is where a number of sources and social media posts often, like recommend people starting off and kind of stay in that place at joy is justice, I want to champion us going and taking it all the way as far as we possibly can. Because again, outside of the paradigm of oppression, and which is where I endeavor to exist much of the time, and helping my clients begin to begin to function outside of and exist and build outside of that paradigm. In our living in leadership. Obviously, we're on this planet, and that paradigm is everywhere. And the more we heal, and the more we remove internalized oppression and unhealed harm, the more we start to heal those things, and suffocate and let the roots of that oppression wither. And we replace new plants, and new roots and or deepen existing healthy ones. That's how even if the poison is still in the air, we start to filter that air in different ways and also join forces in different ways and provide cleaner air for each other. Okay. That was metaphor for now. That's good enough for now. Right? So this doesn't have to be all or nothing. It can be incremental, and oh, this is good. And I think a lot of people get stuck. Because you might have resistance to what I just said a moment ago about, you know, going taking it as far as you can. But I think what happens more frequently, is that people are met with a barrier that ties into another limiting belief or lie that they've been told about themselves, and they fall back into resignation compromised survival mode, so they might have certain areas of thriving, but they but you might experience disempowerment around a new thing. And through my programs and through my leadership, hopefully in alignment with a number of other thought leaders, what I want to do is offer you not a class simply on perfectionism, or on thriving, but give you a framework that helps you engage in a process of intentional emergence and transformation around each of these different barriers as you encounter them To clear the way to greater thriving. And now please don't misconstrue what I'm saying here, I'm very much not of the mind that we need to engage in transformation and deep thinking about every little thing. That's a challenge know, what I'm talking about is I want to invite you to step into thriving more, where can you embrace it more, particularly if you are someone who has a targeted identity, let alone multiple ones. And even if you don't, let's say you are a white sis hat. Christian man, able bodied, tall, fit slender, young, split, You're not too young, you know, like in your 30s or 40s, maybe maybe even 50s, although ageism might start to creep in there. And you're in all of the non target all of the privileged oppressor identities, check all those boxes, I'm still clear. Now, you might be a little bit more mindful when you have that much disproportionate power. That the things that you think you've been conditioned to think support, your thriving aren't harmful. But particularly this is all in the context of folks who are this is not generic advice. I'm specifically talking about this, in terms of folks who have a desire to advance collective shared power and justice, and work toward collective liberation in our world. If that is something if that is a value for you that you care about. If you care about social justice, I'm still team you thriving. And now it's more important, because that's a lot of conditioning, you've gotten to be positioned, both for harm in certain ways to, to keep you in reproducing the harm, and also a tremendous amount of privilege that we be mindful about that. But we don't want to be mindful to the point that it stops you from thriving, especially since so many men commit suicide and experience a ton of harm in the context of this system you're thriving is important to and if they're thriving is important. So is everybody else's. So So let's see. So I've talked about a couple of different barriers and dynamics that get in the way of thriving. What else on that final piece. That is another facet of some of what I've already named here that I think, is a specific manifestation of people's social consciousness is guilt. Is people feeling guilty about thriving? And I feel like this is worth a whole episode in and of itself. So what do I want to say right now that would be of greatest service to you. I want to invite youApril Baskin:
to honor the feeling that you're feeling and perhaps take time to surface it and move through it. If you want to know some ways that you might do that. That will likely be covered around day three of my upcoming live workshopUnknown:
where we will talk about and unpack this more, but in the meantime, you could engage in a variation. Something that Tracy teaches beautifully of Tara Brock's process, you could do some journaling, you could call a confidant so there's there's that piece of it okay, if you're feeling guilty, right? So honor that in some way. Surface it perhaps get more clear about what that's about. And then as you're ready, I want to invite you to perhaps start to shift that guilt you're feeling or just noticed the component parts is some of that guilt about commitment to some of that guilt, about your social justice analysis, Are there parts of that guilt that are actually really righteous and beautiful. As important in some ways, more importantly, but equally, equally important is and how much of that guilt is really guilt that should be at the feet of systemic oppression, and other people who have caused harm. That's a bit more of a burden that you need to carry around that and guilt isn't in service of any one's thriving it's in service of disempowerment and manipulation. I think it sets up people across different identities to be in the in be manipulated and to accept this treatment. And that is not okay. So if you can, as you can, I want to invite you to move in the direction of shifting from guilt into greater commitment that is curious and as receptive to continually evolving and being in relationship. And there's a word I'm wanting here that I was afraid to say. So I stuffed it back down. Let's see if it can come through. What's coming through in this moment is love. Love has a number of the elements that's attached. With that guilt love can have the four levels of the Pretoria consciousness a part of it, love can have awareness, and analysis and commitment, which is the counter to the guilt is commitment. So it's a loving commitment, is what we want to shift into from guilt is loving commitment. It's not guided by guilt, that might be informed by the pain, that systemic oppression causes in the world and in awareness and in our own lives and the ways we've been positioned to be complicit. But in time, and I don't think it's useful to stay there. But you might also try on some anger. Anger is a really helpful transporter, once you honor and move through some of that pain is can you kind of leverage some anger about having been positioned in this way, and use that to start to move in the direction of loving commitment, okay, coming back out of that heart space. So if you want more about this, please feel free to send me a message either directly to my email at info at choice justice.com, or the contact page on the website on the Joyce justice.com website. And all of that information is in the show notes of this episode, if you don't have space to write it down or can't remember that you can contact me through this, if you have thoughts or questions about any of this, I'm happy to speak about any of this in greater depth. But I think so all of that to say is that guilt can get in the way of a thriving, and I don't want it to anymore. And I invite you to engage in some of the different elements of what I shared, it could be precisely or you could take these different elements and then move them around so that it works for you in different ways around your process. And might you might engage in movement or attend a program that helps you hold space for other people around these different themes or this sort of thing. Right, but that you do whatever you need to do. And for some of you it might be as simple as a pivot. And to notice some of that anger and just leverage that anger, anger as a volleying point to move into f that I posit been positioned in this way. And this is inappropriate, I've been positioned to harm people. And I reject this, I accept that this is what has happened. And I reject this continuing to be my truth anymore. And I want to step into mindful loving commitment. And part of that mindful loving commitment can be is to begin to anchor in more solution rather than problem focused activism. And look to movements and efforts and resources that support thriving, not exclusively, also healing is in service of thriving are, you know, this is not to when I said that it just occurred to me that that might sound like I mean that that's a singular thing. I'm not saying that. But just this is one thing that is really important, right, is to lean into and look for and notice the places in your work and in your leadership, wherever you thrived. And did you keep yourself from it because you felt like you didn't deserve it in some way. Or there was a challenge that happened that again, you could use different tools and resources, trauma informed and healing centric resources to move through those things and re enter some of those spaces on relationships from a place of mindful loving, curious, commitment. Mindful loving curiosity and mindful loving commitment. So I think I've covered now about three or four different barriers and challenges that can stop us from leaning into thriving so Fully perhaps now You can let some of that percolate through your system and step more into thriving and think about what is thriving look like for you. To me thriving and joy are somewhat synonymous in different ways or are related our neighbors, our buddies, our homies. And I invite you to think about in a way that similar to how Tracy and I invited you earlier this year to think about what brings you joy, what helps you to thrive and if you had difficulty stepping into or maintaining some of that joy, hopefully some of these insights and reframes can support you with that. And if you want greater support, then please sign up for go to joyous justice.com/resilient, resilience, resilience. And or check the show notes and or just go to joyous justice.com There's a big button, a big banner on the homepage, and sign up for redefining resilience. Because we will take you through I will guide you through a process that helps you actualize the things you want in your life that can help you actualize deeper healing. As well as intentional emergence and transformation in service of what you want, and how you want to live and you're thriving and the justice, you want to advance. I'm tired of all these things being piecemeal. And so I've taken years of research and study and testing and refinement to come up with a robust multi-dimensional into integrative system that accounts for all of these different things that accounts for our neurology that accounts for trauma informed leadership, analysis and healing, that accounts for liberatory leadership and decolonize decolonization and anti oppression work that accounts for joy and love and thriving. So I would love for you to attend this program. And please invite your friends and other people in your community it is incredibly multifaceted, the space is professional, you know, so you can use this in your professional context. And people also use it around navigating challenges that are deeply personal and familial. It's applicable across all these things, because as a black, Afro indigenous woman, as a black Afro indigenous Jewish woman, who lives a multifaceted life and engages in multi dimensional leadership, and sees a need for more people to do the same in order to effectively confront the multifaceted cluster f. That are various dynamics playing out in systemic oppression, around systemic oppression, and climate change and the climate disaster.April Baskin:
It is all the more important that as much as we can from a place of warrior from a place of a mindful warrior mindset, which I am a descendant across all three of my lineages ofUnknown:
warriors, perhaps you are too. And if we are going to be as effective and courageous as we can be, the foundation of that must be our thriving and well being. I want to make this case, I'm not saying you have to believe in me, but from my perspective, there is no otherApril Baskin:
way. With the exception of at times when we are engaged in social change, work or a battle where we didn't have quite enough resources, so we need to power through that moment. But chronically being under resourced and undernourished. And having a broken heart leads to incredible vulnerability and a lack of capacity to effectively analyze and strategize.Unknown:
And this moment demands not perfection, but it does demand excellence and profoundly effective strategy. And my case for this is that that strategy is best rooted in nourishment, and love and wisdom and deep individual and collective care. So cheers to your thriving. I am so here for it. I believe that you're thriving that you're doing well. Oh, that you feeling nourished and balanced spiritually mentally relationally, emotionally, physically, in terms of your resourcing and finances, in terms of your connection to community, that all of that, I believe that all of that is a part of what collective liberation looks like, for me. And the more you nourish yourself in those ways, even if some of it is low key, or maybe even high key oppressive, but the more you start to fill your cup, your energetic care cup, and you start to empty the emotional overwhelm cup, you have both have the resourcing and have the space to continue to evolve to know better, and then have the agility. Agility in my mind requires limber nourished muscles, and tissue and body. Right, and if I want to be perhaps a little less ableist mental agility requires a nourished brain that has enough omega threes in it. Enough fatty acid, and hydration and nourishment. All right, these things are deeply intertwined. And I'm tired of our conditioning and supremacy, culture of profound segregation and separation and isolation, making this so confusing. It's not confusing. Our thriving, you're thriving is essential. is essential in supporting and advancing collective liberation. And the more we thrive, the more we can refine that thriving and become more accountable, and engage in both of these things in a dynamic iterative process, where we know better and we do better and we feel better. And then we do better than we know better, we do better. And we see a challenge or we notice, Whoo, that's oppressive. Okay, well, I love myself that I have support, let me get support around this. They take time to learn because I really thought that was the best way. So let me use these different tools that April teaches and other folks teach. I'm actually a lot don't but but April teaches in different people teach across different programs around engaging in a holistic integrative process, to shift my thinking without leaving myself behind, and without leaving others behind, and engage in transformation. And they get back in to no one better, doing better, feeling better. And keep that going in a virtuous cycle and seeing something that's upsetting. Using the Shema process and tools to transmute that energy. Notice who this is real toxic in different ways. How does that further clarify what I want? How what do we need to shift here? Do I have power and resourcing? Can we organize around this? Or is it too powerful? So then how do we learn how to move around that and start to strategize and develop a long term strategy to undercut that in a way that positions us in the context of safety and wellbeing? So that is the work to me. And I think thriving is super helpful. And also, what I didn't even mention that's a good way to end here. Thriving is something that I believe each of us as emanations of divine energy. Those as beautiful sacred children of Mother Earth deserve to thrive, deserve to live well deserve to eat delicious fruit and spend time with people we love and savor what is good and beautiful in life. Just because and also because that is what is in alignment with Olam, haba the world, the beautiful world to come collective liberationApril Baskin:
is all being safe, and having shared and dynamic and flowing power that shifts among us. So there isn't any extensive power over there's collaboration, and well being us all working in different ways to build lives that we love and support ourselves and each other.Unknown:
Just lots of play and fun. So cheers to your thriving, and let me know how it goes. Let me know, what are your some of your favorite ways to thrive? You can do that on our Facebook page or on any of the places where I'm on social or send me a message I would love to know what are ways that you want to even thriving this coming spring, which starts on March 28. How do you want to thrive and if you want support in thinking about that and moving through some of the very real very real and difficult and tenuous barriers that might be getting in the way of your thriving. Join me on Monday, March 20, the start of spring and also the launch of redefining resilience so that you can redefine resilience and service of your thriving and your most empowered visionary leadership. Let's do this friend, much love.April Baskin:
Thanks for tuning in. To learn more about joyous justice LLC, our team and how you can get involved with our community. Check out the info in our show notes, or find us at joyous justice.comUnknown:
If you enjoy this episode, show us some love. Subscribe wherever you're listening. Tell your people share what you're learning and how your leadership is evolving. Stay humble, but not too humble. And keep going because the future is ours to co create